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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Dec 16, 2012 2:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Little facts that I thought I knew (Dead-related)

All these years I thought that the Dead were covering the Rascals. Which I always liked better (the song). Now I find out that they were doing a cover. Anyone ever hear the original? Btw, the Rascals have reunited. Only took 40 years.

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Dec 16, 2012 2:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Little facts that I thought I knew (Dead-related)

From the whitegum - lyric and song finder:
Origins
The original version of "Good Lovin'" was recorded by Lemme B. Good (sic!) in 1965, with writing credits to Rudy Clark. (thanks to Eric Levy for letting me know about this).
The song was rewritten and recorded by The Olympics in the same year, with writing credits to Clark and Artie Resnick. That version (and the subsequent Young Rascals version) are very similar to what the Grateful Dead sang.

I highly doubt ANYONE on the planet has heard the Clark/Resnick version.

About the Olympics, from wiki:
Their first record was credited to Walter Ward and the Challengers ("I Can Tell" on Melatone Records). After the name change, they recorded "Western Movies" (Demon Records) in the summer of 1958. Co-written by Fred Smith and Cliff Goldsmith, "Western Movies" made it to #8 on the Billboard Hot 100 chart. The song reflected the nation's preoccupation with western themed movies and television programs. It told the story of a man who lost his girl to TV westerns, and it included doo-wop harmonies as well as background gunshots and ricochet sound effects.
In 1959 the group recorded "(Baby) Hully Gully," which initiated the hully gully dance craze. "Big Boy Pete," which the group released in 1960, served as inspiration for The Kingsmen's "Jolly Green Giant." Over the next ten years The Olympics recorded upbeat R&B songs, often about dances popular at the time.
In 1966 The Rascals covered The Olympics 1965 song, "Good Lovin'", and took it to #1 on the US Hot 100. Since then, many recorded versions have been made by prominent artists, including The Who, The Grateful Dead, and Bobby McFerrin.
Fizer was shot and killed during the Watts Riots in 1965. Shortly thereafter, King left the group after his sister died in an accidental shooting. A revamped group continued to record into the early 1970s but were unable to attain popular chart success after the mid 1960s. The Olympics continued to perform on the oldies circuit in the United States and other countries.
Walter Ward's song "Well (Baby please don't go)" (the b-side to "Western Movies") was recorded twice by John Lennon in 1971: the February 1971 studio recording was not issued until the 1998 John Lennon Anthology, then again on Wonsaponatime. The June 1971 live recording with Frank Zappa was issued on 1972's Some Time In New York City, and on 1992's Playground Psychotics.

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Poster: corry Date: Dec 16, 2012 3:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Little facts that I thought I knew (Dead-related)

The Olympics also had a hit with "Big Boy Pete," which the Dead did on a few rare occasions.

I think there's an interview where Garcia is asked about "covering the Rascals" and he sniffily responded "I've been playing the song longer than they have," but I don't have a reference.

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Poster: ice9freak Date: Dec 17, 2012 8:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Little facts that I thought I knew (Dead-related)

The Dead played Hully Gully as well: Amsterdam 10/16/81.

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Dec 16, 2012 4:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Little facts that I thought I knew (Dead-related)

Thanks for the info. I'm old enough to remember Hully Gully, Big Boy Pete, and Baby Please Don't Go on the radio. Pre-transistor!

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Dec 16, 2012 6:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Little facts that I thought I knew (Dead-related)

try this on for size....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilKcBZChiqE

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Dec 16, 2012 6:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Little facts that I thought I knew (Dead-related)

is this the same band???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVeLBC5xmMk

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Dec 17, 2012 12:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Little facts that I thought I knew (Dead-related)

Well! Got to say that's horrible. At least they didn't try to jam.